We want one single MicroFocus team collaboration solution which integrates well with (at least) any other MicroFocus product. This would make integration with 3th party solutions easier also, where applicable. Mentioned products originate all from the same source (Vibe) and instead of competing development-, support- and sales (MF and partners) time we better work together communicating one platform to (potential) customers. Sure any of these products have a certain fit, but at the same time a huge overlap is keeping data silo’s for customers in place, where the idea once was to break these borders. At the same time any of these products has valuable features the other is missing. We feel the market is moving from single purpose products to more integrated, open, cross border, secure, not locking into, team driven solutions. We feel too much time is spend fighting for enhancements in any of these products that would benefit the other products as well. This is mainly [opinion] caused by how these products are traditionally split in product groups (groupware, file). This no longer serves customers in an optimal way and leads to losing customers (opportunity) instead of gaining those as in many cases neither product tends to be a (perfect) fit or is not able to blend into the next step a customer is taking.
Cross posted in GroupWise, Vibe and Filr Idea portal
by: Sebastiaan V. | over a year ago | Other
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The way file and collaboration within Micro Focus is organized makes it (near) impossible to achieve the goal of this Idea, which I believe is essential to achieve many sidegoals possible having such in place. After again a year of talking and watching the ecosystem evolve I can only think of a single solution to solve the issue that evolved after Filr was forked off Vibe as a point solution. From a maketing perspective this back then was a good idea. Today this stand in the way to futher grow Filr so I created a new Idea for this purpose;
We want one single MicroFocus team collaboration solution which integrates well with (at least) any other MicroFocus product. This would make integration with 3th party solutions easier also, where applicable. Mentioned products originate all from the same source (Vibe) and instead of competing development-, support- and sales (MF and partners) time we better work together communicating one platform to (potential) customers. Sure any of these products have a certain fit, but at the same time a huge overlap is keeping data silo’s for customers in place, where the idea once was to break these borders. At the same time any of these products has valuable features the other is missing. We feel the market is moving from single purpose products to more integrated, open, cross border, secure, not locking into, team driven solutions. We feel too much time is spend fighting for enhancements in any of these products that would benefit the other products as well. This is mainly [opinion] caused by how these products are traditionally split in product groups (groupware, file). This no longer serves customers in an optimal way and leads to losing customers (opportunity) instead of gaining those as in many cases neither product tends to be a (perfect) fit or is not able to blend into the next step a customer is taking.
Cross posted in GroupWise, Vibe and Filr Idea portal
https://ideas.microfocus.com/MFI/novell-filr/Idea/Detail/14135
https://ideas.microfocus.com/MFI/mf-vibe/Idea/Detail/14136
Can you plz remove this follow up which I wanted to post in another tread
I fully agree with Sebastiaan on this issue. We have decided to only focus on Vibe, and making sure customers stay away from the other solutions UNTIL Micro Focus get this strategy right, as eventually someone will have the wisdom and vision of seeing this as the core collaboration platform. You can limit features by using the kind of license a user purchased but make sure it is the same platform. The whole TeamWorks development is really a waste of time and should rather have been implemented as an enhanced feature of Vibe. It is as if product management just cannot break away from their silo approach to these solutions. It just do not make sense as a long term strategy.
"It just do not make sense as a long term strategy"; no it doesn't and the obvious result is as predicted, customer (planning and) moving away from Vibe and Filr. Most already left GroupWise so Teamworks isn't even an option there (so is the lack of features). I've only one customer left using a bit of Vibe and after countless talks to product managers they say these products will not get integrated. My bet's on Nextcloud which is making huge progress, it's a pitty MF does not see customers demand such an integrated platform.
As MF is IMO on the wrong path and not planning to integrate mentioned solutions I created an new Idea "Why it makes sense for GroupWise to integrate with Nextcloud"
https://ideas.microfocus.com/MFI/mf-gw/Idea/Detail/15259